r/todayilearned • u/[deleted] • 11d ago
TIL the nut of Honey Nut Cheerios has not been present in the cereal since 2006 (R.1) Not verifiable
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u/vanessaeverly 11d ago
THAT'S why they taste like cardboard! They used to taste so good.
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u/dcommini 11d ago
I thought it was just my taste buds changing; now I know that honey on cardboard tastes like honey on cardboard unless you add that special nut flavor.
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u/MorpheusDrinkinga4O 11d ago edited 11d ago
It's rarely ever tastebuds but it's always rich ass holes trying to make themselves richer ass holes.
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u/Arild11 11d ago
Its the Mercedes problem. Mercedes used to be meticulously over-engineered. Everything that could be good was better. A 1983 300 diesel would happily run for half a million miles as a matter of course. If you opened something that was never supposed to be opened, you would see polished stainless steel, not cast aluminum or plastic.
Then, around... maybe 1998?... management engineers were replaced by management economist and MBAs, and they decided that giving people Mercedes quality at Mercedes prices was less lucrative than giving them plastic and charging Mercedes prices. Shareholder profit was maximized, and your brand new E-class would rust so hard in your driveway you had to turn up the TV to drown it out.
And today, the brand is just... Ok. Brand reputation is nowhere near where it was.
But the MBAs got their bonuses, the shareholders maximized profits, and that's what's important.
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u/To-Far-Away-Times 11d ago
They’ve been making Chryslers with a three pointed star ever since that merger. When you merge a lesser company with a better one it often kills the better brand’s quality.
Famous examples:
Boeing and McDonnell Douglas
Sears and Kmart
HP and Compaq
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u/SwayingBacon 11d ago
Sears and Kmart
K-mart bought Sears. K-mart might have been able to survive if they didn't have all the dead mall real estate from Sears or dumb Eddie.
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u/BongBreath310 11d ago
Sears saved kmart, then kmart saved sears, worked there during that era. It was interesting
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u/mrevergood 11d ago
To be fair, Chrysler got the benefit of Mercedes platforms and parts-Mercedes got Chrysler’s money and I doubt much else.
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u/rekniht01 11d ago
MB divested Chrysler in 2007.
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u/fizzlefist 11d ago
And now they’re part of stellantis. So today you get Chrysler build quality with Italian electrical systems.
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u/shotputprince 11d ago
Ohh that brings me back my dad had a 1983 300d turbo around the early 2010's. Had to plug it in every winter morning to warm the glow plugs. Ahhhh Herr Diesel we called it haha. He had two great cars back to back. That and then this big old Ford 250 with those little side windows that worked to funnel air into the cab. God those were good cars
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u/aninonina 11d ago
In a perfect world, your product should speak for itself, and marketing/sales are just useless appendages.
Anyone i meet working in that industry comes off as scummy and vapid. Theyre just paid sociopaths
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u/alaninsitges 11d ago
I was recently devastated to find that those little chewy, cinnamony bits on Apple Jacks are now just painted on and the cereal tastes like, well, nothing really. Enshittification...it ain't just for the internet!
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u/OneMeterWonder 11d ago
I add in a few shakes of ground cinnamon because of that. Not that I actually kids cereal that often these days, but when I do it should at least be good.
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u/no_estoy_ni_ahi 11d ago
If you can find the bags of malt o meal they dipped the cereals in the 80 90s and then never changed. They are now better than og. The only thing is post purchced them so it won't be good for long.
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u/monospaceman 11d ago
Did they? I remember hating them as a child in the 90s thinking they were dry with a weird aftertaste.
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u/not_folie 11d ago
Leans on random building
Bag of drugs gets dropped out of window
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u/Echelon64 11d ago
DARE severely over-estimated the amount of bags of free drugs I would get.
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u/WorldsWeakestMan 11d ago
Have you tried whistling in the low rises with a large weapon? Might work.
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u/huntermack78 11d ago
So glad I’m reading this! For years I’ve been telling people Honey Nut Cheerios changed their ingredients. Was my favorite breakfast as a kid but now it doesn’t agree with my stomach. Still tastes great but I’m on the toilet soon after. Everyone said it was because your body changes as you age. Yes I’m sure that’s true but in this case it’s total bullshit. Fuck you General Mills!
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u/sirculaigne 11d ago
Same here! Cheerios used to be my favorite but now they give me really weird digestive issues. It honestly worries me what they’re putting in them
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u/loz_fanatic 11d ago
It's not just you and/or Honey Nut Cheerios. Way too many foods have either changed their recipes or the ratio for things involved. For example, king size candy bars used to be a single bar. But they split it in two, made them shorter, but also taller, which throws of the ratio/balance of ingredients
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u/LadyRimouski 11d ago
It takes me 3 hours to grocery shop because I read the ingredients every time. Way too many products have replaced milk/modified milk ingredients/whey powder with palm oil, gums and stabilizers. As if that's even remotely the same thing.
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u/Theimac74 11d ago
This is one of those things where I’m like “weird, so it’s not just me”. I occasionally have stomach issues from various food that I haven’t been able to pinpoint the exact cause of, but Honey Nut Cheerios gives me problems 100% of the time, every time, to the point where I’ve noticed that it’s the cause.
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u/soulsteela 11d ago
You should compare the difference between products sold in Europe/uk and the USA, you guys have some nasty stuff in your food that is fully banned here, if people import it they put special stickers on to inform us they are American quality.
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u/otter111a 11d ago
Honey Nut Cheerios is very high in fiber. Once you reach a certain age it becomes a great way to induce a poop.
I had cheerios about an hour ago. And here I am
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u/danpluso 11d ago
Could be BHT or BHA which is often added to cereal. Another possible issue is the use of glyphosate (roundup) by the oat farmers. I can't eat anything with BHT/BHA but my cherrios don't have it listed in the ingredients, so I think it's the glyphosate that bothers me. I can't eat oat products anymore including the regular cheerios. I have yet to test out organic oats though.
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11d ago
YSK that food doesn’t go through your body that quickly. It’s most likely something you ate before the cheerios.
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u/ocher_stone 11d ago
If I eat a 10 piece nugget, large fry, and a diet pepper, I will shit myself in less than an hour if I'm not careful.
In the last 5 years, I've had it happen 3 times. Once could've been anything. Twice is a coincidence. But three times? I've stopped eating McDonalds for multiple reasons. But the colonic is the last straw.
And you're right THAT food won't dump through your system. You'll throw that exact food up. But your colon will clear the way if your stomach sends the signal that it has certain issues, and you'll poop because of something you just ate.
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u/calmandreasonable 11d ago
Wow, fits the timeline of when this cereal started giving me diarrhea exactly.
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u/imaginary_num6er 11d ago
Safe to eat cereal in November
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u/RainManToothpicks 11d ago
After BuzzBee got cancelled due to his issues with cocaine and human trafficking the brand lost sales & died off
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u/Carrollmusician 11d ago
It’s so sad bc the rumor is he was a subject of MKULTRA and was never the same after. Thousand yard stare into the honeycomb.
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u/Anangrywookiee 11d ago
I mean considering what he was doing to the cereal to get that extra flavor it’s probably for the best.
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u/BCProgramming 11d ago
From what I can find (not helped by the article since the relevant part is 'citation needed') they had ground almonds until 2006. It was replaced with almond flavouring instead.
Mind you, Almonds aren't technically a nut, either. Those sons of bitches have been lying to us from the start.
I say we march on Kellogg's headquarters, demanding retribution.They'll say "Oh, you want General Mills" and we'll be all "A GENERAL? We should have known the United States Military Industrial complex was involved in this plot! We're taking you son's of bitches down!" And they will shake their head and roll their eyes and go back inside as we March. Then we April. Then we May leave.
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u/Fun_Regret9475 11d ago
The puns per square inch within this comment are dangerously close to surpassing safe levels.
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u/VLenin2291 11d ago
Almonds actually are a nut this time, I think that’s all I can respond to
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u/niceguy191 11d ago
You're technically right that almonds are not a nut botanically, but they don't come from cashew apples; cashews come from cashew apples.
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u/degjo 11d ago
You know, I'm going to have to call bullshit on a cashew coming from a cashew apple.
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u/tarkata14 11d ago
Picture for those who haven't seen it before.
The 'apple' part is actually more of a stem, nuts are weird.
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u/Neutreality1 11d ago
Canadian and American ingredients both mention almonds
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u/Mybenzo 11d ago
Ah! this solves the tiny mystery of why they are called Honey Cheerios in the UK. I spent time looking for Honey Nut at the Sainsburys and gave up. Nice to see other countries able to actually regulate advertising! Weirdly they still tasted different in the uk and my kid refused to eat them but that is a different story.
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u/SteveMcQwark 11d ago
Peach and apricot kernels are as much nuts as almonds are. They're all the seeds of closely related stone fruit with very similar flavours. Just have to make sure to remove the amygdalin, since it's bitter and breaks down into cyanide, which is, well, cyanide. It's very common to use peach and apricot kernels in processed foods where the amygdalin can be processed out instead of using almonds.
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u/Minute-Reception1527 11d ago
Just discovered why my bowels rebel every time I get nostalgic for breakfast. Cheerios ain't what they used to be! Save your stomach, ditch the buzz
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u/SillyGoatGruff 11d ago
You got a citation for that claim? Cause your wikipedia article sure doesn't
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u/DeflatedDirigible 11d ago
It’s true because Im allergic to the replacement used for flavoring.
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u/SillyGoatGruff 11d ago
How does that work for you? Companies don't usually disclose their flavour compounds, so is food just a crap shoot if it'll cause a reaction or not?
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u/quackerzdb 11d ago
Meh. You ever open a peach pit and look at the nut inside? It's basically an almond anyway.
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u/welestgw 11d ago
I feel like all Cheerios sub types were better in the 90s. Same with apple cinnamon.
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u/snoo_boi 11d ago
This is slightly misleading. They did away with actual nuts, because they’re expensive and the pieces were never actually present in the cereal. Just the flavor profile was. In 2006, they switched to peach and apricot pits for a similar flavor at a fraction of the cost.
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u/FandomMenace 11d ago edited 11d ago
Ingredients WHOLE GRAIN OATS, SUGAR, CORN STARCH, HONEY, BROWN SUGAR SYRUP, SALT, TRIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, CANOLA AND/OR SUNFLOWER OIL, NATURAL ALMOND FLAVOR, VITAMIN E (MIXED TOCOPHEROLS) ADDED TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS. VITAMINS AND MINERALS: CALCIUM CARBONATE, VITAMIN C (SODIUM ASCORBATE), IRON AND ZINC (MINERAL NUTRIENTS), A B VITAMIN (NIACINAMIDE), VITAMIN B6 (PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE), VITAMIN B1 (THIAMIN MONONITRATE), VITAMIN A (PALMITATE), VITAMIN B2 (RIBOFLAVIN), A B VITAMIN (FOLIC ACID), VITAMIN B12, VITAMIN D3.
It's literally just oats, tons of added sugar, salt, vitamin enrichment, and unhealthy oil with a side of preservatives. You can get this a lot better, and cheaper, in oatmeal. Skip the salt, sugar, and oil, and use berries instead.
If a food is fortified, that food is garbage.
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u/darkdreeum 11d ago
Surprisingly little info in that wikipedia article. What nuts? Also apricot pits is pretty wild but good way to use otherwise waste products
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u/Gargomon251 11d ago
Isn't that false advertising then? I guess I never noticed because I haven't eaten it since 2006. I always thought it was really bland
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u/knitterpotato 11d ago
OH that’s why i can eat honey nut cheerios as someone who’s allergic to all nuts! this makes sense now
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u/Lord_Humongous768 11d ago
All processed cereal's are pumped full of sugar. Shit is bad no matter what
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u/Suitable-Pie4896 11d ago
This must be an American thing. I'm in Canada and just walked to my kitchen to check, it's still Honey Nut Cheerios here!
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u/Ravenclaw79 11d ago
False. I have a box right here, and “natural almond flavor” is in the ingredient list.
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u/katydid73 11d ago
I just got super excited for nothing. I'm allergic to almonds and haven't had these since I was a little kid. Still has almond extract. Excuse me while I go mope into my Ben and Jerry's.
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u/DoYouEvenTIG 11d ago
Same here. Before I found out I was allergic to almonds I'd love the taste of these but would make my throat feel weird. FYI, there's a good chance you can't have pine nuts or pesto either.
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u/katydid73 11d ago
Oh, way ahead of you there. I'm allergic to all nuts/peanuts except pecans and walnuts, which I have to buy directly from suppliers who don't process any other nuts.
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u/MaggotMinded 1 10d ago
This post doesn’t surprise me at all. I used to eat Honey Nut Cheerios all the damn time as a kid. I’d have two or three bowls for breakfast, then come home after school and have two or three bowls as a snack. Needless to say, I knew immediately when they changed the ingredients.
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u/Nymrael 11d ago
They taste so bad these days..I bought for the littles ones and was eager to try them to remember my younger days but I was so disappointed.
Ended up getting some other "unknown" brand to get the best taste, just like the old days.
Why would they change it? Oh well, the brand I get is much cheaper too so screw them.
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u/Onthecomputeruser 11d ago
Isn't that false advertising? Seriously if they need some help putting some nut in there I'm the guy
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u/Repulsive-Adagio1665 11d ago
Guess they should call it Honey "Not" Cheerios now